Spring talk:CategoryStructure

K, hope pretty much everything is back in - I left out the Strategy guides on purpose, because I don't think they have a place in the "public face" of the Spring site (don't care if they're hidden somewhere). The reason is, the site is about the engine - I think it makes sense to also showcase which games are using it, but explaining those games is better left to the games one homepages, that's my opinion. Seanheron 12:20, 8 August 2009 (UTC) Maybe we should have a more general discussion of what should displayed by the site/sitemap ? Related to this is what should go in which of our "top-bar" pages. I would suggest:

• Present Spring as an Engine (currently About)
• Present Games that use Spring (Games)
• Enable people to install and use spring (Download for installation, FAQaka Help for usage, ??)
• Support improvement and work on the Engine (is in Source Development)
• Support work on content and games (This is also in Source Development, but I think it should have an seperate page)

That would cover everything I think the Spring site should be about / display visibly. I've split Engine Devving and Game creation, cause I just think it's two very seperate things (just look in the forums!). A different possible split might be: Coding <-> Artwork

Well I see no reason why it shouldn't be there - it's an optional thing anyway. Including it won't make the Wiki's primary purpose change and that's being about Spring. But why not allowing some guides for the games? I mean the games may actually present themselves (which often also include brief guides). Considering your argumentation those pages also should be removed. That's because they imo aren't just "showcased" but quite extensively described (game dynamics, tactics and so on)...

You also shouldn't forget that not all of the mods have a website of their own and with the new Project Subforums there's no need for them to do so (those sites have quite a danger of disappearing anyway and so they have a "safe" place for their guides). Games that have external guides (like Gundam RTS) are going to just put in an external link anyway...

You also shouldn't forget that the guides are a HUGE topic with very long explanations - would be a bit lame to simply trash all that work. I mean by putting it e.g. in the "Playing Spring" category it also won't be in the "public face" as you describe it but just one subcategory of many the mods/games can link to in their description... - Athmos, copied here by Sean

I'm not saying they should be deleted - so it's not "trashed". But honestly, these games/mods could make their own websites to present that kind of stuff, I don't see the problem for them to be honest. So I basiclly still disagree with you on including them (the most I would think makes sense is for the Mods page to link to strategy guides - but then I wouldn't include that in the SiteMap. Seanheron 15:16, 8 August 2009 (UTC)