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KpcEr2 at 00:27, 19 April 2007

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Krudat: /* Zero Damage */ Correct Mantis links.

2006-03-29T08:42:50Z

Zero Damage: Correct Mantis links.

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	* A mute(bool) method.		* A mute(bool) method.

	=== Zero Damage === (Mantis: [http://spring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=#140 1], [http://spring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=#147 2])		=== Zero Damage === (Mantis: [http://spring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=140 1], [http://spring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=147 2])

	(Damage and health are floats! For the sake of players, please assume Spring will only ever show whole-number amounts... In any case, this means you only need ridiculous amounts of smallarms fire to significantly damage a tank.)		(Damage and health are floats! For the sake of players, please assume Spring will only ever show whole-number amounts... In any case, this means you only need ridiculous amounts of smallarms fire to significantly damage a tank.)

Krudat: /* Zero Damage */

2006-03-29T08:40:11Z

Zero Damage

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 ([[Monthly_Topic_Rotation|MTR]]! <nowiki>*ahem*</nowiki> Maybe not.)
-==== And some random sound-related posts ====
+''' And some random sound-related posts '''
 * [http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2522 Using play-sound in Spring], and how StartMoving() is called "exactly a bazillion times per second in first person view", like AimPrimary() apparently is. I'm not sure if I could try to fix it, and I ''am'' sure I'd add another strand of spaghetti to Spring on my first few attempts.
 * [http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2667 please make the berthasound more quiet!]. For the record, the DGun's sound has a specific volume nerf ([http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Sim/Units/UnitLoader.cpp?op=blame&rev=0&sc=0 CUnitLoader]::LoadWeapon, near the bottom).  It also suggests modder-settable sound-specific volume nerfs, or something.
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 * Perhaps add a sound priority (int) to all the PlaySounds so the LLTs don't replace the Vulcans' sounds, or possibly vice versa. Currently, the OpenAL system has a ring-buffer of 16 simultaneous sounds, maybe. I haven't looked at that too closely...
 * A mute(bool) method.

Krudat at 03:28, 25 March 2006

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 == Meben's Code Parade ==
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 === #00050: Ferromancer: Ground construction units attempt to repair air units while in flight === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=50 Mantis])
-I ''think'' CMD_PATROL is a point rather than a path. (And why
+I ''think'' <code>CMD_PATROL</code> is a point rather than a path. (And why
 does it push a copy of itself?) (And it's been that way since ancient SF
 CVS.) (Oh, and deque semantics are a pain - the docs don't define them very
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 (PieceProjectiles do exactly 50 damage.)
 === #00116: NOiZE: Cloakcosts are doubled === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=116 Mantis])
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 * Someone who understands how the QuadField works extends it (re-fac-tor!) to record interceptable projectiles. Sadly, it mentions SQUARE_SIZE, which is my current cue to find some other aspect of Spring to read.
 === #000123: Decimator: Laser weapons will not even attempt to shoot through trees === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=123 Mantis])
 ... and have done so since SF CVS day dot ([http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/springrts/taspring/rts/BeamLaser.cpp?rev=1.1&view=markup BeamLaser.cpp]).
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 * [http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3728 Sound effects still played if you have no LoS]
+Hmm. I could almost sketch out a design for a new "[http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/System/Sound.h?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 ISound]" with these requirements...

Krudat: /* Unit sounds and position */ Created.

2006-03-25T01:21:48Z

Unit sounds and position: Created.

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	I think there's an MTR somewhere here, but I'm not entirely sure what it is.		I think there's an MTR somewhere here, but I'm not entirely sure what it is.


			=== Unit sounds and position ===

			Something only occasionally noted is that individual unit-selected sounds play where the unit is, so if you're zoomed out or off-screen, you can't hear them.

			* [http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1248 Sound]
			* [http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=15984#15984 Making sounds audible again]
			* [http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2239 Soundvolume is too low when zoomed out]
			* [http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4242&highlight=sound volume vs distance]

			([[Monthly_Topic_Rotation\|MTR]]! <nowiki>ahem</nowiki> Maybe not.)

			==== And some random sound-related posts ====
			* [http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2522 Using play-sound in Spring], and how StartMoving() is called "exactly a bazillion times per second in first person view", like AimPrimary() apparently is. I'm not sure if I could try to fix it, and I ''am'' sure I'd add another strand of spaghetti to Spring on my first few attempts.
			* [http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2667 please make the berthasound more quiet!]. For the record, the DGun's sound has a specific volume nerf ([http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Sim/Units/UnitLoader.cpp?op=blame&rev=0&sc=0 CUnitLoader]::LoadWeapon, near the bottom). It also suggests modder-settable sound-specific volume nerfs, or something.
			* [http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3728 Sound effects still played if you have no LoS]

			]

Krudat at 00:49, 25 March 2006

2006-03-25T00:49:11Z

New page

== Meben's Code Parade ==

You know when they say "Use the Source, Luke"? It's a suprising amount of
work - and that's for someone who can almost read C++. Many times, when
someone adds a bug in [http://spring.clan-sy.com/mantis Mantis] or posts in
the forums, I read the code closely and try and find the relevant bits.
I figured since I write it down, I might as well write it down where I can
find it again, and where someone else might find it useful.

Rules: don't touch the lobby client, no snide commentary. Just code
references.

(WebSVN doesn't give per-line anchors. So much for code references.)

=== #00048: Ferromancer: Unit Behavior: Construction units on patrol claim resources when not needed. === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=48 Mantis])

Add a check around [http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Sim/Units/CommandAI/BuilderCAI.cpp?op=blame&rev=963&sc=0 CBuilderCAI]:452.

=== #00050: Ferromancer: Ground construction units attempt to repair air units while in flight === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=50 Mantis])

I ''think'' CMD_PATROL is a point rather than a path. (And why
does it push a copy of itself?) (And it's been that way since ancient SF
CVS.) (Oh, and deque semantics are a pain - the docs don't define them very
well. I ''hope'' <tt>commandQue.push_front(co) means commandQue[0] == co</tt> ...)
<nowiki>[TODO Whoever made templated network messages can start on commands now. :P]</nowiki>

I'd still need to figure out how to tell if the current repair job is the
fault of a patrol command, and how to abort it.

The policy question is how and when the con-bot decides to give up on the
air unit and do something else. (How far is 'too far' from the patrol
position?)

=== #00052: Bug Hunter: Units acknoledge enemy "bugger of" === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=52 Mantis])

Perhaps Bug Hunter picked the phrase "bugger off" because that's what it's
called in code. You can even do it from COB.

If you ''couldn't'', I'd just get [http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Game/GameHelper.cpp?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 helper->BuggerOff] to check team or ally
relationships (or whatever it is). But for all I know, units only clear
factory buildpads because the factory script asks them to.

---

ColCheckH and ColCheckV in [http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Sim/Units/MoveTypes/groundmovetype.cpp?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 groundmovetype.cpp] tell fellow ground-pounders to
get out of the way on close collision. I'd guess this is the code that
prevents anyone ever making a nice neat line of units. =) Including, in this
case, the enemy. Unfortunately, the rest of the file, at a glance, looks
like Spring's ever-fragile ground pather.

=== #00066: Argh: S3O Explosion Behavior === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=66 Mantis])

It shouldn't be ''impossible'' to let s3o ''pieces'' explode without
<tt>SHATTER</tt>. Making s3os shatterable would take a little longer since we've got
arrays of verticies rather than 3do-style faces.

However, in Feb. 2006, someone said something about writing a model-type abstraction that would include Ogre meshes, whatever those are. Again in March, someone's tinkering with unit textures.

=== #00068: Argh: Behavior of FALL scripting event === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=68 Mantis])

Unfortunately, I don't have the source for the AA Vulcan, which features ejecting cases.

There's an ancient note that all such fragments must <code>FALL</code> otherwise they'll
never go away.

I'd have to fire up OTA to get the correct behaviour.

(PieceProjectiles do exactly 50 damage.)

=== #00116: NOiZE: Cloakcosts are doubled === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=116 Mantis])

Metal generation, energy use and idle regeneration are handled in [http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Sim/Units/Unit.cpp?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 CUnit]::SlowUpdate().

Metal and energy gain and a couple of other per-unit-time values are divided
in half in there, but the cloak energy cost isn't.

You can even see the 'half-cost' of things when you, say, turn a metalmaker,
or a cloak, on or off.

=== #00118: Argh: Feature Request: "Free Interceptor" behavior. === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=118 Mantis])

==== How they work now ====

The [http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Sim/Weapons/Weapon.cpp?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 base Weapon inherit] like it's willing to
point any weapon at an incoming projectile (<code>::CheckIntercept</code>, called by
<code>CWeapon::Update</code>). There's even a couple of interceptor-specific checks in
it. However, ''only'' Starburst-type indirect-fire missiles have the right
callbacks for being both interceptable and interceptors.

[http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Sim/Weapons/StarburstLauncher.cpp?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 <code>CStarburstLauncher::Fire</code>] tells [http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Sim/Misc/InterceptHandler.cpp?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 CInterceptHandler] about the
new projectile, if it's <code>weaponDef->targetable</code>.

Only [http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Sim/Projectiles/StarburstProjectile.cpp?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 CStarburstProjectile] takes an interceptTarget. In its ::Update, it
checks if the nuke is 'close'. If so, it tells first the nuke then itself
that they've hit something, which makes both of them blow up ([http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/taspring-linux/trunk/rts/Game/GameHelper.cpp?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 helper->Explosion]).

(It looks like the reason why the nuke's airburst doesn't do significant damage is because, on Small Divide, they travel higher than aircraft.)

==== Unpinning the behaviour ====

I haven't tried it, but it would be relatively easy to have an anti-nuke, say, Vulcan. (... It's the only salvoing unit who's projectile class I've looked up.)

* (Might need to change CWeapon::Update()'s call to CheckIntercept() to wait until the salvo ends, so the entire salvo points at the nuke. I haven't tested this.)
* Add the interceptTarget argument to CCannon and parameter to CExplosiveProjectile.
* Copy the range-to-nuke check to CExplosiveProjectile::Update() from StarburstProjectile.

This is nice and easy 'cause each interceptor round only needs to check one
projectile (probably every frame). This presumes that more nukes than
interceptors never happens - if not, then you'll get to see the volley of
Vulcan fire take out one nuke, but probably mysteriously fail to destroy the
other.

If I want to see a hail of laser fire from the Smasher completely defuse a volley from the Raven, I'd have a problem. Either:

* I do it the simple way and have every interceptor check every interceptable. I'd guess it'd be bad for performance. (Mustn't forget to check the ally-teams of the projectiles. ... Wait, they don't have any. :S)

* Someone who understands how the QuadField works extends it (re-fac-tor!) to record interceptable projectiles. Sadly, it mentions SQUARE_SIZE, which is my current cue to find some other aspect of Spring to read.

=== #000123: Decimator: Laser weapons will not even attempt to shoot through trees === ([http://taspring.clan-sy.com/mantis/view.php?id=123 Mantis])

... and have done so since SF CVS day dot ([http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/springrts/taspring/rts/BeamLaser.cpp?rev=1.1&view=markup BeamLaser.cpp]).

One, two, skip a few...

{|
| Unit
| Target DT?
| Trees?
| Weapon's class
| Call responsible
|-
| Annihilator
|
|
| CBeamLaser
| helper->LineFeatureCol
|-
| Ambusher
| X
| X
| CCannon
|
|-
| Rocko
| X
| X
| CMissileLauncher
|
|-
| Raven
| X
| X
|
|
|-
| HLT
|
|
| CLaserCannon
| helper->LineFeatureCol
|-
| Defender
| X
| X
| CMissileLauncher
|
|-
| Merl
| X
| X
| CStarburstLauncher
|
|-
| Zeus
|
|
| CLightningCannon
| helper->LineFeatureCol
|-
| Maverick
| ?
| X
|
|
|}

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