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</table> YeyD3l https://springrts-wiki.p2004a.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Theory_On_Strategy&diff=18344&oldid=prev Lindir The Green: /* Micro in an RTS */ 2007-01-24T15:13:52Z <p><span class="autocomment">Micro in an RTS</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:13, 24 January 2007</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l75">Line 75:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 75:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Starcraft uses large amounts of both types of micro, TA uses much less &quot;pointless micro&quot;, and it seems like Supreme Commander will use very little of either.   </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Starcraft uses large amounts of both types of micro, TA uses much less &quot;pointless micro&quot;, and it seems like Supreme Commander will use very little of either.   </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The interesting about the Spring engine is that it offers (as of now) unparalleled flexibility in exactly how much micro <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">you </del>use, because so much can be delegated to an AI, freeing up the player for large scale multiplayer strategy. 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It's always a tradeoff which level of control to do different things off, which adds yet another dimension to gameplay.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Gameplay and Balance in an RTS ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Gameplay and Balance in an RTS ==</div></td></tr> </table> Lindir The Green https://springrts-wiki.p2004a.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Theory_On_Strategy&diff=18343&oldid=prev Lindir The Green: /* Gameplay and Balance in an RTS */ 2007-01-24T15:13:21Z <p><span class="autocomment">Gameplay and Balance in an RTS</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:13, 24 January 2007</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l81">Line 81:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 81:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A Real Time Strategy game, or Spring mod, is comprised mostly out of units that players build.  What determines the balance and much of the gameplay is when exactly specific units should be build.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A Real Time Strategy game, or Spring mod, is comprised mostly out of units that players build.  What determines the balance and much of the gameplay is when exactly specific units should be build.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The only time that a mod definitely is '''not''' balanced is when there is never any reason to build a certain unit; if another unit or group of units would always be "better" for a player to build. The huge variety of maps and specific conditions that occur make achieving an unbalanced game difficult<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, but definitely not impossible</del>. It is important to remember though the effects of player perception. Even a completely useless unit on paper could be the best thing to build if it is considered useful by players, or to decieve the oponent about the extent of a player's experience or abilities.  Which makes the number of unbalanced mods approach 0.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The only time that a mod definitely is '''not''' balanced is when there is never any reason to build a certain unit; if another unit or group of units would always be "better" for a player to build. The huge variety of maps and specific conditions that occur make achieving an unbalanced game difficult. It is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">also </ins>important to remember though the effects of player perception. Even a completely useless unit on paper could be the best thing to build if it is considered useful by players, or to decieve the oponent about the extent of a player's experience or abilities.  Which makes the number of unbalanced mods approach 0.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>However, even a balanced mod can be no fun to play, which is where the real act of balancing comes in.  And it is generally a good idea to ensure that any unit could be the best thing to build in a significant proportion of situations.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>However, even a balanced mod can be no fun to play, which is where the real act of balancing comes in.  And it is generally a good idea to ensure that any unit could be the best thing to build in a significant proportion of situations.</div></td></tr> </table> Lindir The Green https://springrts-wiki.p2004a.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Theory_On_Strategy&diff=18342&oldid=prev Lindir The Green: /* Gameplay and Balance in an RTS */ 2007-01-24T15:11:14Z <p><span class="autocomment">Gameplay and Balance in an RTS</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:11, 24 January 2007</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l89">Line 89:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 89:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A mod is usually less fun to play, and called imbalanced, if at any given time there are very few best units to build.  This is why there is so much criticism of mods/games where a certain build order is neccesary to even have a chance.  It requires much &quot;Normal&quot; strategy to figure out what that build order is... But very little &quot;Multiplayer&quot; strategy once the optimal build order is know.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A mod is usually less fun to play, and called imbalanced, if at any given time there are very few best units to build.  This is why there is so much criticism of mods/games where a certain build order is neccesary to even have a chance.  It requires much &quot;Normal&quot; strategy to figure out what that build order is... But very little &quot;Multiplayer&quot; strategy once the optimal build order is know.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>While more options generally allow for a mod to have more opportunities for "Multiplayer" strategy, options also increase the learning curve, and too many options can decrease the importance of "Multiplayer" strategy, by "watering it down," and making individual <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ones </del>less risky<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">.</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>While more options generally allow for a mod to have more opportunities for "Multiplayer" strategy, options also increase the learning curve, and too many options can decrease the importance of "Multiplayer" strategy, by "watering it down," and making individual <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">choices </ins>less risky.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Note: BA/AA have large amounts of units, but '''IMO''' few that can be built at a given time, which '''IMO''' decreases multiplayer strategy.  This is in contrast to XTA, which has less units, but '''IMO''' more options, yet still they remain un-watered down. '''IMO'''</del>.</div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> </table> Lindir The Green https://springrts-wiki.p2004a.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Theory_On_Strategy&diff=18341&oldid=prev Lindir The Green: Finally got that last section done... But nowhere near as much as I have in right brain, evading articulation. 2007-01-24T02:36:16Z <p>Finally got that last section done... But nowhere near as much as I have in right brain, evading articulation.</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:36, 24 January 2007</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Mostly by </del>Lindir The Green</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Disclamer:  This page is almost entirely the opinion of </ins>Lindir The Green<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">.  It is '''not''' meant to be considered fact; it is merely my analysis of Strategy, particularly how it relates to the genre of the RTS.  Take it or leave it.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Feel free to add stuff/rephrase stuff/properly format stuff; if </del>I don't <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">like it I will just revert it :)</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">appreciate merciless editing, but please </ins>don't <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">change the ''meaning'' of anything.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l65">Line 65:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 65:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The more things you can pay attention to, the more skill you have at multitasking.  And so the more micromanagement in a game, the higher the gap between the skillful multitaskers and the non-skillful multitaskers</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The more things you can pay attention to, the more skill you have at multitasking.  And so the more micromanagement in a game, the higher the gap between the skillful multitaskers and the non-skillful multitaskers</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There are two different types of micromanagement in real-time strategy games<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">: </del>"tactical" and "pointless".</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There are two different types of micromanagement in real-time strategy games<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, which I call </ins>"tactical" and "pointless".</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>"Tactical" micromanagement is comprised of small scale activities and maneuvers, sometimes of a r/p/s nature.  Deciding which unit should attack which and where each unit should move, for optimal enemy destruction.  It involves split second assesments of the situation, and out guessing your opponent.  According to general opinion, "tactical" micromanagement in a game is a good component of balanced play.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>"Tactical" micromanagement is comprised of small scale activities and maneuvers, sometimes of a r/p/s nature.  Deciding which unit should attack which and where each unit should move, for optimal enemy destruction.  It involves split second assesments of the situation, and out guessing your opponent.  According to general opinion, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">some </ins>"tactical" micromanagement in a game is a good component of balanced play<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, with the perfect amount varying depending on the player</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>"Pointless" micromanagement consists of the multitude of little tasks that require little to no intellect or forethought to pull off.  Clicking 100 checkboxes requires manual skill to do quickly, but doesn't require any "strategy."  Telling every unit to attack a single unit for increased efficiency requires valuble brain time, which skilled multitaskers have more of, but doesn't really add strategic depth to the game.  Telling all of your hawks to go forwards and backwards and forward and backwards requires a lot of thinking, but <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">really </del>doesn't <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">add '''anything''' to the </del>strategy <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">of a game.  Starcraft is filled with "Pointless" micromanagement.  Logically, an RTS should try to minimise "pointless" micromanagement for a better overall play experience</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>"Pointless" micromanagement consists of the multitude of little tasks that require little to no intellect or forethought to pull off.  Clicking 100 checkboxes requires manual skill to do quickly, but doesn't require any "strategy."  Telling every unit to attack a single unit for increased efficiency requires valuble brain time, which skilled multitaskers have more of, but doesn't really add strategic depth to the game.  Telling all of your hawks to go forwards and backwards and forward and backwards requires a lot of thinking, but <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">it </ins>doesn't <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">really provide options for </ins>strategy.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Side Note: </del> <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">It seems like Supreme Commander will severely reduce both types </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">micro</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">which </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">IMO not very good</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"Pointless" micromanagement isn't neccesarily bad though. </ins> <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Arcade games consist almost entirely </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">it</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and, while there </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">little strategy in its execution, it requires strategy to decide how much of it to use</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Balance in an RTS ==</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Starcraft uses large amounts of both types of micro, TA uses much less "pointless micro", and it seems like Supreme Commander will use very little of either.  </ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">In an RTS, there are many units with hard coded abilities.  Balancing an RTS </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the act </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">deciding </del>exactly <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">which abilities the units should have</del>, to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">make </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">game that the creator and/or target market finds the most enjoyable </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">play</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The interesting about the Spring engine </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">that it offers (as </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">now) unparalleled flexibility in </ins>exactly <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">how much micro you use</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">because so much can be delegated </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">an AI, freeing up the player for large scale multiplayer strategy. It's always </ins>a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">tradeoff which level of control to do different things off, which adds yet another dimension </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gameplay</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For a unit to be worth having in a game, it must be the best choice to build at some point in any game on any map.  Because of the huge differences in different maps </del>and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">different specific games, theoretically ANY unit could be worth building at some time, as long as it isn't surpassed </del>in <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">EVERY way by another unit.</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Gameplay </ins>and <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Balance </ins>in <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">an RTS ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[More later</del>... <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I had </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">revelation while pacing around </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">table]</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">A Real Time Strategy game, or Spring mod, is comprised mostly out of units that players build</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> What determines the balance and much of the gameplay is when exactly specific units should be build</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The only time that a mod definitely is '''not''' balanced is when there is never any reason to build a certain unit; if another unit or group of units would always be "better" for a player to build. The huge variety of maps and specific conditions that occur make achieving an unbalanced game difficult, but definitely not impossible. It is important to remember though the effects of player perception. Even a completely useless unit on paper could be the best thing to build if it is considered useful by players, or to decieve the oponent about the extent of a player's experience or abilities.  Which makes the number of unbalanced mods approach 0.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">However, even a balanced mod can be no fun to play, which is where the real act of balancing comes in.  And it is generally a good idea to ensure that any unit could be the best thing to build in a significant proportion of situations.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">While there may always be a "best" unit to build, since the information (and processing speed) of a player is restricted, there are usually several good units to build at any given time.  How many depends on the mod.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">A mod is usually less fun to play, and called imbalanced, if at any given time there are very few best units to build</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> This is why there is so much criticism of mods/games where </ins>a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">certain build order is neccesary to even have </ins>a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">chance.  It requires much "Normal" strategy to figure out what that build order is... But very little "Multiplayer" strategy once the optimal build order is know.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">While more options generally allow for a mod to have more opportunities for "Multiplayer" strategy, options also increase the learning curve, and too many options can decrease the importance of "Multiplayer" strategy, by "watering it down," and making individual ones less risky.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Note: BA/AA have large amounts of units, but '''IMO''' few that can be built at a given time, which '''IMO''' decreases multiplayer strategy.  This is in contrast to XTA, which has less units, but '''IMO''' more options, yet still they remain un-watered down. '''IMO'''.</ins></div></td></tr> </table> Lindir The Green