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<p>RgfCfc: </p> <hr /> <div>== 2005.12.22 ==<br /> <br /> [7:26:24 PM] Back from the game&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:30 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; yay&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:36 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I was worried about a comm rush&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:43 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; that was the reason for defenses&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:47 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; well...&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:50 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; im usually aggressive. but then they eventually stop&lt;br&gt;<br /> my front line at their base, kill it, and i got nothing left&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:51 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; that makes no sense&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:51 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; but maybe rockos would have been better&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:56 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; if you're afraid of a com rush&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:02 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; why build stationary defense&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:09 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; requires less micro&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; ah, so you're lazy&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:19 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; heh&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:23 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; no, I'm busy&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:32 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; grow another hand&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:35 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; its pretty useful&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:37 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; a move order doesn't take up much time&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:41 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; or maybe not as micro effecient as other players&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:59 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; you know how to spread units on a line, right?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:06 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; drag right mouse&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:09 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; yeah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:18 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; just put them on one&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:24 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; and when you need to pull back&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:27 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; use that same order&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:32 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i saw you doin a lot of that with noize&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:34 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so units won't walk in eachothers way&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:37 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; keep on firing&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:42 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; yup&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:43 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I do that quita a bit too&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:49 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so they're not in each others line of fire&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:58 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; when enemy units walk in&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:02 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; it is especially important with rockos and jethros&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:04 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; they're usually clustered&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:10 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so less than 50% of them can actually fire&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:24 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; if you have 10 units spread out&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:30 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; and your opponent has 15 clustered&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:34 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; your 10 will win&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:40 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; that line order made rockos and jethros 200% more effective&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:49 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; as long as you have all 10 attack 1 enemy unit&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:18 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; can you walk and focus fire at the same time?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:42 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; maybe I should focus more&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:49 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I tend to do stuff all over the map&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:54 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; you're better off killing an enemy unit every 2 seconds,&lt;br&gt;<br /> than have all of them fire at different units for 20-30 seconds&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:11 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i don't think there's a simple command for that Charmides&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:36 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; what I need to do is get more complex in my build order&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:42 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; longer chains&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:47 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; so I can micro units more&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:54 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i need to stop losing&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:56 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; im not really sure how though&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:02 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i usually spend 50% of my time on giving cons/plants&lt;br&gt;<br /> orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:03 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I win a lot&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:06 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:07 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:15 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I spen onver 50% for sure&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:21 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i get too easily distracted just being harassed at&lt;br&gt;<br /> the beginning&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:24 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; and once i have a units selected i give it 20 orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> minimum&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:24 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; but you can never win too much&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:31 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; especiall on maps like comet catcher&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:41 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; 20 , wow&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:44 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; like what units&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:46 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I will have to try that&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:52 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; how can you give like your attacking force 20 &lt;br&gt;<br /> commands&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:56 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i just have 3-4 cons build rows of solars&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:01 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; you can't&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:05 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; yeah but a row of solar is just 1 command&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:14 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont see where the other 19 are coming from&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; 1 command, 20 orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:20 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; cons need long order chains&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:36 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; yeah, but you also have to watch them, in case you need&lt;br&gt;<br /> to change the orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:39 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i can understand teh con veh orders part&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:41 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; idle cons = inferior economy in 5 minutes&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:43 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; no point in suicidal cons&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:00 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; u saw that game vs noize&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:00 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i hate 1v1 on like comet catcher though&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:06 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; way too many weak points at all times&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:06 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; also, metal and energy tores should be close to 0 if&lt;br&gt;<br /> possible&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:09 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; stores&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:16 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i get too distracted and then they run in lightning&lt;br&gt;<br /> tanks at another point and i lose my base&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:20 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; which was a fine demonstration of all the orders i gave&lt;br&gt;<br /> my units&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:43 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; yup, metal in storage is no good&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:47 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; put it to work&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:08 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; bah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; on comet, i usually have 10-15 cons in the 1st 12&lt;br&gt;<br /> minutes at work&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:21 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; increasing during the game&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:23 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; when i played 1v1 on comet i kept getting tanks &lt;br&gt;<br /> running rampant behidn my lines and i couldnt stop them&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:31 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; the best training for spring is an econ degree&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:48 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; also, you can build stuff smart&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:51 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; civ and ta are excellent preparation for college level&lt;br&gt;<br /> economics&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:53 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; mexes are weak&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:57 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; shield them with solars&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:33 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; or build a row of solars as if they were dt&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:41 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; and i get harassed too easily at beginning. i was&lt;br&gt;<br /> suprised how little of that noize did during your game&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:42 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so they shield a flank of your base&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:50 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; the other warc kid i played kept sending weasles all&lt;br&gt;<br /> over the place&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:52 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; that works great until the big level 2 tanks run 'em over&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:55 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so you can focus stationary defense on 1 side, and mobile&lt;br&gt;<br /> on the other&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i'm talking about the 1st 20 minutes of the battle&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:19 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; yeah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:21 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; after that all bets are off&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:22 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I do the same&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:22 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; :P&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:41 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; after that is where i get owned&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:45 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; on MH in example, i build mexes along the edge or a wall,&lt;br&gt;<br /> and a row of solars in front&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:49 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; shielding my mexes&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:07 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so in case a raid is succesfull, i still have my metal&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:11 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; these things seem basic, but many 100 hr players do not so&lt;br&gt;<br /> them&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:13 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; mh?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:16 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; oh&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:17 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; metal heck&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:19 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont play metal maps anymore&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:21 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; too annoying&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:24 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; allowing me to rebuild in seconds&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:25 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i get bored when games lag&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:30 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; lag sux&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:46 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; but the fault most people make is that they stop building&lt;br&gt;<br /> economy at a certain point&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:49 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; and im back home right now for winter break and my&lt;br&gt;<br /> parents only have dialup back here :(&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:55 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i NEVER stop increasing my reso&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:04 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:04 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; you and folke&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:05 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; that sux&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:08 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; and SJ&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:12 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; well i tend to stop building economy because im too&lt;br&gt;<br /> busy pushing the enemy line and want all my resources for that&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:28 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; and of course i fail&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:30 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; bah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:30 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:40 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; an adv kbot 3 necro's tend to build fusion damn fast...&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:44 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; that works only if your opponent does the same&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:52 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; does hosting replays work now? I could just show you&lt;br&gt;<br /> my stupid replay against min3mat&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:58 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; instead of renaming all myy problems on it&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:04 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; if you opponent works on economy and you don't, in 5 min he &lt;br&gt;<br /> will walk through you&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:26 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; or maybe 10&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:34 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; if you can't stop his attack, yes&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:41 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; if you can, you'll push him back real fast&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:46 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I tend to play smaller maps&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:51 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; watch my replay and tell me what my problems are? lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:59 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; so my long game econ skills are weak&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:01 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; HLT's tend to rip most lvl 1 stuff to piece real fast&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:23 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; ill take that as a no :(&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:34 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; does everyone has to have the replay for playback, or&lt;br&gt;<br /> only the host?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:39 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I should post this conversation on the wiki...&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:43 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i think only host&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:47 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i think i just transfer it to you somehows&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:48 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; if y'al have no objections&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:51 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; uh no&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:54 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i don't&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:55 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; unless you edit out everything i said&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:56 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:00 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont want to be on wiki&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:09 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; if I remove your name?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:22 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i spose. RD was the one saying anything important&lt;br&gt;<br /> anyways&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:27 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; there's only 1 rule in TA&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:28 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; just delete me from all of it :)&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:37 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; the questions are important for context&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:37 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; DON&quot;T STOP BUILDING&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:44 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; gah dammit foe&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:45 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:47 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; fine whatever&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:51 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; and for that, you need as many cons as you can afford&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:57 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I'l replace your name with something else&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:02 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; yay&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:03 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; nerd1 :P&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:07 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; heh&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:11 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; :(&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:12 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ''' [[Strategy_and_Tactics|&lt;- Back to Strategy and Tactics page]]'''<br /> <br /> [[Category:Strategy]]</div>

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and focus fire at the same time?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:42 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; maybe I should focus more&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:49 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I tend to do stuff all over the map&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:54 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; you're better off killing an enemy unit every 2 seconds,&lt;br&gt;<br /> than have all of them fire at different units for 20-30 seconds&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:11 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i don't think there's a simple command for that Charmides&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:36 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; what I need to do is get more complex in my build order&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:42 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; longer chains&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:47 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; so I can micro units more&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:54 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i need to stop losing&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:56 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; im not really sure how though&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:02 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i usually spend 50% of my time on giving cons/plants&lt;br&gt;<br /> orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:03 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I win a lot&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:06 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:07 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:15 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I spen onver 50% for sure&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:21 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i get too easily distracted just being harassed at&lt;br&gt;<br /> the beginning&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:24 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; and once i have a units selected i give it 20 orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> minimum&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:24 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; but you can never win too much&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:31 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; especiall on maps like comet catcher&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:41 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; 20 , wow&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:44 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; like what units&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:46 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I will have to try that&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:52 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; how can you give like your attacking force 20 &lt;br&gt;<br /> commands&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:56 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i just have 3-4 cons build rows of solars&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:01 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; you can't&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:05 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; yeah but a row of solar is just 1 command&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:14 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont see where the other 19 are coming from&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; 1 command, 20 orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:20 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; cons need long order chains&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:36 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; yeah, but you also have to watch them, in case you need&lt;br&gt;<br /> to change the orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:39 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i can understand teh con veh orders part&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:41 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; idle cons = inferior economy in 5 minutes&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:43 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; no point in suicidal cons&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:00 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; u saw that game vs noize&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:00 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i hate 1v1 on like comet catcher though&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:06 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; way too many weak points at all times&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:06 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; also, metal and energy tores should be close to 0 if&lt;br&gt;<br /> possible&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:09 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; stores&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:16 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i get too distracted and then they run in lightning&lt;br&gt;<br /> tanks at another point and i lose my base&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:20 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; which was a fine demonstration of all the orders i gave&lt;br&gt;<br /> my units&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:43 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; yup, metal in storage is no good&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:47 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; put it to work&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:08 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; bah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; on comet, i usually have 10-15 cons in the 1st 12&lt;br&gt;<br /> minutes at work&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:21 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; increasing during the game&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:23 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; when i played 1v1 on comet i kept getting tanks &lt;br&gt;<br /> running rampant behidn my lines and i couldnt stop them&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:31 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; the best training for spring is an econ degree&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:48 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; also, you can build stuff smart&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:51 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; civ and ta are excellent preparation for college level&lt;br&gt;<br /> economics&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:53 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; mexes are weak&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:57 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; shield them with solars&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:33 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; or build a row of solars as if they were dt&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:41 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; and i get harassed too easily at beginning. i was&lt;br&gt;<br /> suprised how little of that noize did during your game&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:42 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so they shield a flank of your base&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:50 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; the other warc kid i played kept sending weasles all&lt;br&gt;<br /> over the place&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:52 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; that works great until the big level 2 tanks run 'em over&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:55 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so you can focus stationary defense on 1 side, and mobile&lt;br&gt;<br /> on the other&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i'm talking about the 1st 20 minutes of the battle&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:19 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; yeah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:21 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; after that all bets are off&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:22 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I do the same&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:22 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; :P&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:41 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; after that is where i get owned&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:45 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; on MH in example, i build mexes along the edge or a wall,&lt;br&gt;<br /> and a row of solars in front&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:49 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; shielding my mexes&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:07 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so in case a raid is succesfull, i still have my metal&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:11 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; these things seem basic, but many 100 hr players do not so&lt;br&gt;<br /> them&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:13 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; mh?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:16 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; oh&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:17 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; metal heck&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:19 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont play metal maps anymore&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:21 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; too annoying&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:24 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; allowing me to rebuild in seconds&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:25 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i get bored when games lag&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:30 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; lag sux&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:46 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; but the fault most people make is that they stop building&lt;br&gt;<br /> economy at a certain point&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:49 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; and im back home right now for winter break and my&lt;br&gt;<br /> parents only have dialup back here :(&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:55 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i NEVER stop increasing my reso&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:04 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:04 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; you and folke&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:05 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; that sux&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:08 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; and SJ&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:12 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; well i tend to stop building economy because im too&lt;br&gt;<br /> busy pushing the enemy line and want all my resources for that&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:28 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; and of course i fail&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:30 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; bah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:30 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:40 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; an adv kbot 3 necro's tend to build fusion damn fast...&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:44 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; that works only if your opponent does the same&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:52 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; does hosting replays work now? I could just show you&lt;br&gt;<br /> my stupid replay against min3mat&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:58 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; instead of renaming all myy problems on it&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:04 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; if you opponent works on economy and you don't, in 5 min he &lt;br&gt;<br /> will walk through you&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:26 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; or maybe 10&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:34 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; if you can't stop his attack, yes&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:41 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; if you can, you'll push him back real fast&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:46 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I tend to play smaller maps&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:51 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; watch my replay and tell me what my problems are? lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:59 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; so my long game econ skills are weak&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:01 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; HLT's tend to rip most lvl 1 stuff to piece real fast&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:23 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; ill take that as a no :(&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:34 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; does everyone has to have the replay for playback, or&lt;br&gt;<br /> only the host?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:39 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I should post this conversation on the wiki...&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:43 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i think only host&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:47 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i think i just transfer it to you somehows&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:48 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; if y'al have no objections&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:51 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; uh no&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:54 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i don't&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:55 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; unless you edit out everything i said&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:56 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:00 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont want to be on wiki&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:09 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; if I remove your name?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:22 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i spose. RD was the one saying anything important&lt;br&gt;<br /> anyways&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:27 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; there's only 1 rule in TA&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:28 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; just delete me from all of it :)&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:37 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; the questions are important for context&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:37 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; DON&quot;T STOP BUILDING&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:44 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; gah dammit foe&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:45 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:47 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; fine whatever&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:51 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; and for that, you need as many cons as you can afford&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:57 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I'l replace your name with something else&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:02 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; yay&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:03 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; nerd1 :P&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:07 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; heh&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:11 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; :(&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:12 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ''' [[Strategy_and_Tactics|&lt;- Back to Strategy and Tactics page]]'''<br /> <br /> [[Category:Strategy]]</div>

RgfCfc https://springrts-wiki.p2004a.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Advanced_Strategy_Discussion&diff=1811 2007-06-19T17:23:48Z

<p>RgfCfc: </p> <hr /> <div>== 2005.12.22 ==<br /> <br /> [7:26:24 PM] Back from the game&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:30 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; yay&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:36 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I was worried about a comm rush&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:43 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; that was the reason for defenses&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:47 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; well...&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:50 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; im usually aggressive. but then they eventually stop&lt;br&gt;<br /> my front line at their base, kill it, and i got nothing left&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:51 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; that makes no sense&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:51 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; but maybe rockos would have been better&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:26:56 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; if you're afraid of a com rush&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:02 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; why build stationary defense&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:09 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; requires less micro&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; ah, so you're lazy&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:19 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; heh&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:23 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; no, I'm busy&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:32 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; grow another hand&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:35 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; its pretty useful&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:37 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; a move order doesn't take up much time&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:41 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; or maybe not as micro effecient as other players&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:27:59 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; you know how to spread units on a line, right?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:06 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; drag right mouse&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:09 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; yeah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:18 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; just put them on one&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:24 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; and when you need to pull back&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:27 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; use that same order&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:32 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i saw you doin a lot of that with noize&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:34 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so units won't walk in eachothers way&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:37 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; keep on firing&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:42 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; yup&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:43 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I do that quita a bit too&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:49 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so they're not in each others line of fire&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:28:58 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; when enemy units walk in&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:02 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; it is especially important with rockos and jethros&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:04 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; they're usually clustered&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:10 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so less than 50% of them can actually fire&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:24 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; if you have 10 units spread out&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:30 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; and your opponent has 15 clustered&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:34 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; your 10 will win&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:40 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; that line order made rockos and jethros 200% more effective&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:29:49 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; as long as you have all 10 attack 1 enemy unit&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:18 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; can you walk and focus fire at the same time?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:42 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; maybe I should focus more&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:49 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I tend to do stuff all over the map&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:30:54 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; you're better off killing an enemy unit every 2 seconds,&lt;br&gt;<br /> than have all of them fire at different units for 20-30 seconds&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:11 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i don't think there's a simple command for that Charmides&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:36 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; what I need to do is get more complex in my build order&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:42 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; longer chains&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:47 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; so I can micro units more&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:54 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i need to stop losing&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:31:56 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; im not really sure how though&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:02 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i usually spend 50% of my time on giving cons/plants&lt;br&gt;<br /> orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:03 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I win a lot&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:06 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:07 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:15 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I spen onver 50% for sure&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:21 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i get too easily distracted just being harassed at&lt;br&gt;<br /> the beginning&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:24 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; and once i have a units selected i give it 20 orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> minimum&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:24 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; but you can never win too much&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:31 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; especiall on maps like comet catcher&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:41 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; 20 , wow&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:44 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; like what units&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:46 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I will have to try that&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:52 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; how can you give like your attacking force 20 &lt;br&gt;<br /> commands&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:32:56 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i just have 3-4 cons build rows of solars&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:01 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; you can't&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:05 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; yeah but a row of solar is just 1 command&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:14 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont see where the other 19 are coming from&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; 1 command, 20 orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:20 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; cons need long order chains&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:36 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; yeah, but you also have to watch them, in case you need&lt;br&gt;<br /> to change the orders&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:39 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i can understand teh con veh orders part&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:41 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; idle cons = inferior economy in 5 minutes&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:33:43 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; no point in suicidal cons&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:00 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; u saw that game vs noize&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:00 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i hate 1v1 on like comet catcher though&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:06 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; way too many weak points at all times&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:06 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; also, metal and energy tores should be close to 0 if&lt;br&gt;<br /> possible&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:09 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; stores&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:16 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i get too distracted and then they run in lightning&lt;br&gt;<br /> tanks at another point and i lose my base&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:20 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; which was a fine demonstration of all the orders i gave&lt;br&gt;<br /> my units&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:43 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; yup, metal in storage is no good&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:34:47 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; put it to work&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:08 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; bah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; on comet, i usually have 10-15 cons in the 1st 12&lt;br&gt;<br /> minutes at work&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:21 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; increasing during the game&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:23 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; when i played 1v1 on comet i kept getting tanks &lt;br&gt;<br /> running rampant behidn my lines and i couldnt stop them&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:31 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; the best training for spring is an econ degree&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:48 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; also, you can build stuff smart&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:51 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; civ and ta are excellent preparation for college level&lt;br&gt;<br /> economics&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:53 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; mexes are weak&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:35:57 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; shield them with solars&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:33 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; or build a row of solars as if they were dt&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:41 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; and i get harassed too easily at beginning. i was&lt;br&gt;<br /> suprised how little of that noize did during your game&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:42 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so they shield a flank of your base&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:50 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; the other warc kid i played kept sending weasles all&lt;br&gt;<br /> over the place&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:52 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; that works great until the big level 2 tanks run 'em over&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:36:55 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so you can focus stationary defense on 1 side, and mobile&lt;br&gt;<br /> on the other&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:16 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i'm talking about the 1st 20 minutes of the battle&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:19 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; yeah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:21 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; after that all bets are off&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:22 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I do the same&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:22 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; :P&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:41 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; after that is where i get owned&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:45 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; on MH in example, i build mexes along the edge or a wall,&lt;br&gt;<br /> and a row of solars in front&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:37:49 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; shielding my mexes&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:07 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; so in case a raid is succesfull, i still have my metal&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:11 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; these things seem basic, but many 100 hr players do not so&lt;br&gt;<br /> them&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:13 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; mh?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:16 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; oh&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:17 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; metal heck&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:19 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont play metal maps anymore&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:21 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; too annoying&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:24 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; allowing me to rebuild in seconds&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:25 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i get bored when games lag&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:30 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; lag sux&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:46 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; but the fault most people make is that they stop building&lt;br&gt;<br /> economy at a certain point&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:49 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; and im back home right now for winter break and my&lt;br&gt;<br /> parents only have dialup back here :(&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:38:55 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i NEVER stop increasing my reso&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:04 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:04 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; you and folke&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:05 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; that sux&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:08 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; and SJ&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:12 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; well i tend to stop building economy because im too&lt;br&gt;<br /> busy pushing the enemy line and want all my resources for that&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:28 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; and of course i fail&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:30 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; bah&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:30 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:40 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; an adv kbot 3 necro's tend to build fusion damn fast...&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:44 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; that works only if your opponent does the same&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:52 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; does hosting replays work now? I could just show you&lt;br&gt;<br /> my stupid replay against min3mat&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:39:58 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; instead of renaming all myy problems on it&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:04 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; if you opponent works on economy and you don't, in 5 min he &lt;br&gt;<br /> will walk through you&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:26 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; or maybe 10&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:34 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; if you can't stop his attack, yes&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:41 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; if you can, you'll push him back real fast&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:46 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I tend to play smaller maps&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:51 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; watch my replay and tell me what my problems are? lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:40:59 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; so my long game econ skills are weak&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:01 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; HLT's tend to rip most lvl 1 stuff to piece real fast&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:23 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; ill take that as a no :(&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:34 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; does everyone has to have the replay for playback, or&lt;br&gt;<br /> only the host?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:39 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I should post this conversation on the wiki...&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:43 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i think only host&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:47 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i think i just transfer it to you somehows&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:48 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; if y'al have no objections&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:51 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; uh no&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:54 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; i don't&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:55 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; unless you edit out everything i said&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:41:56 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:00 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i dont want to be on wiki&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:09 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; if I remove your name?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:22 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; i spose. RD was the one saying anything important&lt;br&gt;<br /> anyways&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:27 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; there's only 1 rule in TA&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:28 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; just delete me from all of it :)&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:37 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; the questions are important for context&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:37 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; DON&quot;T STOP BUILDING&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:44 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; gah dammit foe&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:45 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:47 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; fine whatever&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:51 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; and for that, you need as many cons as you can afford&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:42:57 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; I'l replace your name with something else&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:02 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; yay&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:03 PM] &lt;IownU&gt; nerd1 :P&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:07 PM] &lt;FoeOfTheBee[FD]&gt; heh&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:11 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; :(&lt;br&gt;<br /> [7:43:12 PM] &lt;Charmides&gt; lol&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ''' [[Strategy_and_Tactics|&lt;- Back to Strategy and Tactics page]]'''<br /> <br /> [[Category:Strategy]]</div>

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