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EvoGreenlitList

2014-04-13T18:11:29Z

Ant1: /* Bots, AIs */

List of most urgent problems currently preventing players from playing evo.

==LOBBY, downloader==
http://code.google.com/p/springweblobby/wiki/EvoSteamBugs

==Maps==
Too much random map changes. Too much downloading, too much unsync = no games start.

Some commonly chosen maps are unplayable (space maps etc)

Solve: '''Maplist''' on ALL hosts.

Best only put ONE map so that players do not have to download much and can just play.
Map could be:
http://springfiles.com/spring/spring-maps/eye-horus-v2

Progress:
unsynced players are specced and can not delay gamestart but does not seem to help so much

==Singleplayer==
Does not work with fresh install because there are no files.

One must first join a MP to download engine,map,mod.

Solve: '''Download files on login''' or something.

===empty room, use !lock===
The common solution to select an empty autohost and then lock the room does not work:

Players need to be manually to use !lock command. The empty hosts are impossible to find because players randomly join&leave all the time. Even if you join an empty host, hardly does one have enough time to type !lock before another player joins.

===Bots, AIs===
Needs '''filter''' for add-bot menu. Only evo-compatible bots must be listed.
AAI is too often choosen because top of list but it does not work.

Solve:
If nessecarly hard-coded hack in lobby might be needed?
(real solution like implenting validAI.lua probally no time)

CarRepairer: Actually the REAL real solution is to remove AIs from the engine, which should have been done years ago like widgets. That would solve it for future versions only so a validAI list would be needed now of course.

The evo-AIs reportedly "do nothing." 
Under investigation at: http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=556029#p556029 
Possible quick fix: play on metal maps (Trololo, Trench_Linked). 

==engine download==
For unknown reasons '''often does not work.'''

"stops at 100%"

"nothing happens"

or errors like http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=64&p=556182#p556131

EvoGreenlitList

2014-04-13T18:07:02Z

Ant1: /* Bots, AIs */

List of most urgent problems currently preventing players from playing evo.

==LOBBY, downloader==
http://code.google.com/p/springweblobby/wiki/EvoSteamBugs

==Maps==
Too much random map changes. Too much downloading, too much unsync = no games start.

Some commonly chosen maps are unplayable (space maps etc)

Solve: '''Maplist''' on ALL hosts.

Best only put ONE map so that players do not have to download much and can just play.
Map could be:
http://springfiles.com/spring/spring-maps/eye-horus-v2

Progress:
unsynced players are specced and can not delay gamestart but does not seem to help so much

==Singleplayer==
Does not work with fresh install because there are no files.

One must first join a MP to download engine,map,mod.

Solve: '''Download files on login''' or something.

===empty room, use !lock===
The common solution to select an empty autohost and then lock the room does not work:

Players need to be manually to use !lock command. The empty hosts are impossible to find because players randomly join&leave all the time. Even if you join an empty host, hardly does one have enough time to type !lock before another player joins.

===Bots, AIs===
Needs '''filter''' for add-bot menu. Only evo-compatible bots must be listed.
AAI is too often choosen because top of list but it does not work.

Solve:
If nessecarly hard-coded hack in lobby might be needed?
(real solution like implenting validAI.lua probally no time)

CarRepairer: Actually the REAL real solution is to remove AIs from the engine, which should have been done years ago like widgets. That would solve it for future versions only so a validAI list would be needed now of course.

The evo-AIs reportedly "do nothing." 
Under investigation at: http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=22582&start=640 
Possible quick fix: play on metal maps (Trololo, Trench_Linked). 

==engine download==
For unknown reasons '''often does not work.'''

"stops at 100%"

"nothing happens"

or errors like http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=64&p=556182#p556131

EvoGreenlitList

2014-04-13T18:05:30Z

Ant1:

List of most urgent problems currently preventing players from playing evo.

==LOBBY, downloader==
http://code.google.com/p/springweblobby/wiki/EvoSteamBugs

==Maps==
Too much random map changes. Too much downloading, too much unsync = no games start.

Some commonly chosen maps are unplayable (space maps etc)

Solve: '''Maplist''' on ALL hosts.

Best only put ONE map so that players do not have to download much and can just play.
Map could be:
http://springfiles.com/spring/spring-maps/eye-horus-v2

Progress:
unsynced players are specced and can not delay gamestart but does not seem to help so much

==Singleplayer==
Does not work with fresh install because there are no files.

One must first join a MP to download engine,map,mod.

Solve: '''Download files on login''' or something.

===empty room, use !lock===
The common solution to select an empty autohost and then lock the room does not work:

Players need to be manually to use !lock command. The empty hosts are impossible to find because players randomly join&leave all the time. Even if you join an empty host, hardly does one have enough time to type !lock before another player joins.

===Bots, AIs===
Needs '''filter''' for add-bot menu. Only evo-compatible bots must be listed.
AAI is too often choosen because top of list but it does not work.

Solve:
If nessecarly hard-coded hack in lobby might be needed?
(real solution like implenting validAI.lua probally no time)

CarRepairer: Actually the REAL real solution is to remove AIs from the engine, which should have been done years ago like widgets. That would solve it for future versions only so a validAI list would be needed now of course.

The evo-AIs reportedly "do nothing."
Under investigation at: http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=22582&start=640
Possible quick fix: play on metal maps (Trololo, Trench_Linked).

==engine download==
For unknown reasons '''often does not work.'''

"stops at 100%"

"nothing happens"

or errors like http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=64&p=556182#p556131